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Google powered crypto wallet 'as easy as email'
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Powered means driven by
Google powered is active vs powered by Google is passive
Hence for example, I drive a car vs a car driven by me, thus no divergence in this case except the locus of control.
First it’s me I drive the car the second is a car is driven by me.
In this case powered is reflexive this means already passive making the statement active.
Using google vs (google powered) vs using google (powered by google)
Hence same thing
Also when there may be some semantical differences they are too small to see for the common user. So in my opinion, as both are the same thing, it is implying that it is Google acting as the driving force for the wallet.
So the right wording would be using extensions created by Google. So is powered meaning endorsed by Google. … Hence it is the case like powered by Intel …. A Intel chip is inside so powered by intel.
The real question is, if this creates brand confusion to make people believe it is a Google product?
Hence how substantial is Google tech for the wallet and if the mention of Google intends to take advantage of brand confusion?
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You have a valid point, do you mean its ethical or non-ethical? You could file this as a claim and have it go to jury to see if your claim is deemed to be true.
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The wording "powered by Google" is really misleading as, according to this article (https://medium.com/the-hut34-project/google-powered-ethereum-wallets-9ba796c18e11) when Hut34 says ‘Google powered' they are actually "referring to a synergy of key Google technologies" meaning they use google technologies to authentify users and store wallets. This article details the steps to follow to use this product and we can understand easily from there, thatStage 1 of 4— OAuth: At this stage they make use of Google authentification system to allow access, like many apps do nowadays.
Stage 2 of 4— Hidden app data in Users' Google Drive: At this stage you grant permissions to Hut34 to access you google drive so they can store your wallets there.
Here the terms "hidden app" highlights that Hut34 is an independant service integreated within google cloud plateform but isn't a google product in itself.
It is true that Google took part of the project as they said "In the development of the wallet, we took advice from Google Partner Engineers to understand the risks better around our selection of Google tech" but this collaboration looks like a supplier/ customer one and Hut34 cannot be consider as a google powered wallet but rather a wallet using google power.6f184d12d984b207aabaa5cd270cab80
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This is not a Powered by Google product. It is simply hosted on the Google Cloud to alow for Auth via google credentials. They explain that its hosted on the google cloud here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPlKB6yEzNwThey also walk by their use of the 'powered by Google term' by redefining it as 'When we say ‘Google powered' we're referring to a synergy of key Google technologies'
https://medium.com/the-hut34-project/google-powered-ethereum-wallets-9ba796c18e11
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It seems to be the same claim than cla1551174415 by karl on 2019-03-01 12:01:40
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I believe, as with any form of security, this statement by Mr. McNamara should be taken with a grain of salt. There's always going to be a battle against scam artists, identity thieves by Google, Yahoo, Facebook, etc. To his credit, in the above sentence in the article, he says that Hut34 won't have any access to users "at any time", but I'm still skeptical on how this might work.64d63bbb0face731f632ef7afa13fed8Status: Bounty Hunter
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*can't see the Quote posted by erikreed89, so this may be a duplicate:
Quote - "not worry about anyone within our, or any other organisation getting access to their information”
Claim - Given that this article is targeted at a layman (in the absence of a better phrase), using the words "not worry" can easily create a false sense of security. It is misleading. The general public cannot be told to "not worry" about other organisations getting access to their information purely because of the use of google auth.
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@joemoolla This would be a valid claim in my opinion. Probably "not worry" could be seen as an statement of guarantee. This would is discussed in many seed cases.
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@karl - yes, sorry, should have said "appears to be a false guarantee".
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What does powered means? Can everyone just say it? They use google api and say powered by google. I don't think so!
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I suppose the question is... Who manages the wallet? How is it verified? How are transactions executed and validated? Bank transactions have hard start and stop points. How would this work? Perhaps, this is the confusion. Block chain should verify the transaction at the currency level. So, who or how are the transactions managed. Am I on the right track here?
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It was decided to release 32% of the funds. The jury voted in their opinion to release an average of 32% of the bounty and a median of 40% of the bounty.
Please see below for the opinion of the jury:
Claim: The wording "powered by Google" is really misleading as, according to this article (https://medium.com/the-hut34-project/google-powered-ethereum-wallets-9ba796c18e11) when Hut34 says ‘Google powered’ they are actually "referring to a synergy of key Google technologies" meaning they use google technologies to authentify users and store wallets. This article details the steps to follow to use this product and we can understand easily from there, that Stage 1 of 4— OAuth: At this stage they make use of Google authentification system to allow access, like many apps do nowadays. Stage 2 of 4— Hidden app data in Users’ Google Drive: At this stage you grant permissions to Hut34 to access you google drive so they can store your wallets there. Here the terms "hidden app" highlights that Hut34 is an independant service integreated within google cloud plateform but isn't a google product in itself. It is true that Google took part of the project as they said "In the development of the wallet, we took advice from Google Partner Engineers to understand the risks better around our selection of Google tech" but this collaboration looks like a supplier/ customer one and Hut34 cannot be consider as a google powered wallet but rather a wallet using google power.
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It was decided to release 0% of the funds. The jury voted in their opinion to release an average of 0% of the bounty and a median of 0% of the bounty.
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Claim: I believe, as with any form of security, this statement by Mr. McNamara should be taken with a grain of salt. There's always going to be a battle against scam artists, identity thieves by Google, Yahoo, Facebook, etc. To his credit, in the above sentence in the article, he says that Hut34 won't have any access to users "at any time", but I'm still skeptical on how this might work.
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It was decided to release 0% of the funds. The jury voted in their opinion to release an average of 1% of the bounty and a median of 0% of the bounty.
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Claim: This is not a Powered by Google product. It is simply hosted on the Google Cloud to alow for Auth via google credentials. They explain that its hosted on the google cloud here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPlKB6yEzNw They also walk by their use of the 'powered by Google term' by redefining it as 'When we say ‘Google powered’ we’re referring to a synergy of key Google technologies' https://medium.com/the-hut34-project/google-powered-ethereum-wallets-9ba796c18e11
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Wow putting the 'Google' logo in the ads is pretty egregious. I'd be really surprised if there has been no legal action on this.
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